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....to a ProAm photog who is about to shoot his first fashion shoot......?
Please excuse the newbie intrusion.., but apparently i have my 1st shoot next month... and feeling a GREAT deal of anxiety about it......
I'm good at what i have been mainly doing up till now... cityscapes and very casual portarits of friends....
So the upcoming shoot is causing me untold anxiety....
I'm not getting paid, and i'm doing it mainly for myself... see if i like fashion photog as much as i enjoy the aesthetics from the outside in...the designer has given me wide latitude as to what i want to do.....
But i dont honestly feel ready.... i havent yet been able to figure out what would be best to buy for my 1st set of lights... i know theres plenty of on-the-cheap, improvisational things i could do... But i do have a lil money to spend on something that i can start out twith, so i want to do that....
The apt where we plan to shoot is VERY airy and well-lit... ut is it realistic to try to shoot with just available.... (weather in Apr, not so predictable, etc) ..
I've already post-phoned once- which i had no prob doing, as it was something out of my hands....but i am reluctant to do so again...
Also curious about any specific wording i need to include in the model releases...since the clothes are his, but the images will be mine...
Do u still ask the model to sigh a release in this case even...??
I do have innate probs with self-confidence... but the more i think about it- the more it just seems doomed to fail........
Words of advice, encouragement, checklists, warnings.... ANYTHING before i pass out from the fear and self-doubt ???
Thanks all......
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Re: What would u say........
Mon, March 23, 2009 - 1:46 PMfirst thing go to lighting basic school. take classes at B&H they offer them free. Otherwise read up on lighting, go to the library and or bookstore, barnes and noble have tables you can sit and read.
If you are not getting paid, I wouldn't worry about it. Is this a famous celebrity you are photographing? Read everything on model releases.
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Re: What would u say........
Mon, March 23, 2009 - 11:16 PMYes, always get a signed model release. A few of the most famous cases were people who shot pix of Mortenson (Baptized As Baker) and Madonna Louise Ciccone. You never know what you or your clients will do that might make the shots important.
Beyond that, I'd quickly get a few lights, even just one would do. And practice practice practice with them. Nothing will serve you better than understanding just what your lighting will do when working in front of your client. One good set at B and H, Dynalite has a one head set at $999 and a two head set at $1599. Comes complete with carrying case. These are sets with a power pack, and there are also battery powered sets by Dynalite as well as Bowens and Photogenic. And then you could also go for the good old monos, such as the ones Bowens and Elinchrome make. If you buy a set or even just a light or two for under $800, you could spend $200 getting stands, umbrellas and a remote and keep it at a grand and still have a good set.
In my opinion, what will really make your shots the best is having a deep understanding of what your lights do. You can identify what you can do and what you need to do what you cannot do. Even just having one very good Mono, and a stand and umbrella, will give you a starting point. If you can afford a set of pocket wizards to trigger them, or a lesser and cheaper wireless remote, you will be able to move unimpeded around your subject. And getting those other angles will give you some awesome shots. Some of the very best shots I've seen are done with only one light. Remember that normally we see only with one light, ( the sun), and so that will look most natural.
But all this is best done before you ever set foot in front of your subject. You do some good work, and giving yourself control of the lighting by learning your system will make you a more powerful shooter. I can use my Dynas without even thinking about how to do what I want. That ability to flow seamlessly while in your creative space will give you winning shots. But you can't get there when the strove is in a box on B and H's shelf...
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Re: What would u say........
Mon, March 23, 2009 - 11:17 PMOh, and go out there and HAVE FUN while your shooting! -
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Re: What would u say........
Tue, March 24, 2009 - 2:03 PMScott thanks for your comments, Stef, since you are in NYC there are plenty of studios which will rent space and gear, Alkit, Adorama, Lens & Repro, and Fotocare does. Personally I would go with Profoto, since that is standard here in NYC, a pack and head is under a $100. -
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Re: What would u say........
Tue, March 24, 2009 - 3:13 PMHey guys.........Thanks.....
because of how much light the apt im shooting in gets... and because of the time squeeze-
Think im gonna just try using a few reflectors for this 1st shoot... there is a rain date in case the weather fails us.......
and what is the thinking for getting silver vs white vs gold reflectors....??
I have been reading up like a madman.... and think i want to get one- maybe two momos
with an umbrella and a softbox....
im not clear on some concepts, tho.....
i always thought it was up to the BULB for wattage of a light...
all the lighting i see seems to list the watt as being the power of the light 'box' or unit itself......
and im thinking that continuous will be easiest for me to learn on/work with first, no....??
Just got the 50mm 1.8 today as well !!!!
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Re: What would u say........
Tue, March 24, 2009 - 10:38 PMI personally would heavily recommend against continuous lighting. The first time you see just how sharp your shots get with a strobe light, you will understand. There is a very definite and quantifiable and qualified difference in the sharpness of strobe versus continuous. And any one who really understands lighting will know this and it can tend to peg you as amateur. Not that hot lights don't have their place, but it does tend to mark you as non pro. that 10,000th of a secoond flash freezes even the slightest hand tremor, as well as any other movement based blur.
Lighting is rated by bulb wattage for hot lights, but for light output for strobes. And that depends on capacitors and other circuitry inside your flash. The rated power of a 600 watt second flash shows a top limit of , well, 600 watt seconds. And the strobe tube is not a real light bulb, but a flash tube designed to create a very intense and short duration burst on incoherent light from a high voltage power source.
So consider this, Continuous lamps are rated in watts (which is a rate of power), with no time period defined to determine total energy. So by definition, if we use a shutter speed time sample of say 1/100 second, then the total energy available to us from a 500 watt continuous lamp is (500 watts x 1/100 second) = 5 watt seconds. In contrast to continuous lights, a small studio flash unit rated 160 watt seconds will give us the full 160 watt seconds of energy instantly, regardless of what our shutter speed may be. Note that 160 watt seconds is greatly more energy than the 5 watt seconds above, and will enable you to shoot at shorter durations as well as lower ISO settings. The benefits should be obvious.
This means that in the long run, what you learn on hot or continuous lights doesn't necessarily translate well into strobe. Seriously, there is a significant reason that the overwhelming majority of pro's use strobe. even your on camera flash gets rated at around 75 watt seconds. And the idea of renting to get a handle on what you want is a fabulous suggestion. Even with a light flooded apartment, strobes can help you out. That short duration burst of light just really works that well.
Go with mono's and a wireless, and even practice on the cat if you have to, to get proficient with the lighting.. You should have some friends who just want to goof around and "play" model. Utilize them, your shooting will most definitely benefit from that. One idea you might try is to rent some gear and play with it, or buy some used gear. Take it and shoot both ambient light as well as strobe. Explain to your client you want to "artistically experiment", and see how you like the two sets of shots. Most people will be flattered that you consider them good enough to try to push the envelope fashion wise. And you just might surprise yourself and get even better shots than you expected to.
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